Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

komora096 said:
Kwhyo hicho kipande ni mradi mwngine tofauti

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Hapana fool!

kule bandarini kuna upanuzi unaendelea berth 1-7..



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Vyote vina muingiliano! Ukiangalia bridge over bridge na viaduct structures utaweza ona kuanzia Shaurimoyo kuna provision ya branch kuelekea kurasini!

Keep believing we will build SGR n leave it at the middle of nowhere like ur SGR terminating at Naivasha!

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Geza Ulole said:
Hapana fool!

kule bandarini kuna upanuzi unaendelea berth 1-7..



Pia BRT inaendelea


Vyote vina muingiliano! Ukiangalia bridge over bridge na viaduct structures utaweza ona kuanzia Shaurimoyo kuna provision ya branch kuelekea kurasini!
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Akirudi nitag plz....
 
FYI we are talking about a very short distance of appr. 5 km. It will not take more than 4 weeks man hours watakuwa wamemaliza kujenga.

For now they don't want to disturb the flow of freight trains out and into the port through NGR which is still the backbone of cargo transport for hinterland and the neighboring countries.

Once the Dar - Moro SGR, the marshaling yard and ICD at Kwala are ready. They will complete this 5 km SGR stretch from Shaurimoyo to the harbor. Thereafter, no freight NGR trains will be allowed to go to the port. Instead, freight NGR trains will offload and load their goods at Kwala ICD.

Only cargo SGR shunters will be plying between the port and Kwala ICD.
komora096 said:
Kwhyo hicho kipande ni mradi mwngine tofauti

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Kafrican said:
Ugandan delegation - Nairobi ICD

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Nahisi waganda hawaja uona
The best 007 said:
Akirudi nitag plz....
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Geza Ulole said:
Hapana fool!

kule bandarini kuna upanuzi unaendelea berth 1-7..



Pia BRT inaendelea


Vyote vina muingiliano! Ukiangalia bridge over bridge na viaduct structures utaweza ona kuanzia Shaurimoyo kuna provision ya branch kuelekea kurasini!

Keep believing we will build SGR n leave it at the middle of nowhere like ur SGR terminating at Naivasha!

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Mombasa handles 30 million + tonnes annually. Dar ni mtoto kwa Mombasa apa Africa

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Bantugbro said:
FYI we are talking about a very short distance of appr. 5 km. It will not take more than 4 weeks man hours watakuwa wamemaliza kujenga.

For now they don't want to disturb the flow of freight trains out and into the port through NGR which is still the backbone of cargo transport for hinterland and the neighboring countries.

Once the Dar - Moro SGR, the marshaling yard and ICD at Kwala are ready. They will complete this 5 km SGR stretch from Shaurimoyo to the harbor. Thereafter, no freight NGR trains will be allowed to go to the port. Instead, freight NGR trains will offload and load their goods at Kwala ICD.

Only cargo SGR shunters will be plying between the port and Kwala ICD.

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Climate change itafanya bahari imeze Dar. Mlifanya ujinga sana kujenga Gdp yenu karibia nusu kando mwa bahari. Miaka 50 zijazo, Dar haitakuwepo
Geza Ulole joto la jiwe
 
Geza Ulole said:
haya nieleweshe ni vp SGR yenu yenye limit kwa wagon zenu zenye axle load 4 na kila moja ina uzito wa 25 tons zinaweza kubeba cargo zaidi ya SGR Tanzania yenye axle load 35 tons! Yet ur SGR ina speed limit at 80 km/h for cargo in comparison to 120 km/h for Tanzania's! Zaidi ya hapo SGR Tanzania ina provision ya kuunga treni za urefu wa 2 km ukiacha double stack! Endeleeni kudanganywa na Mchina!

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Sawa, tutakuelimisha.
Kenya SGR is designed for high frequency. Yaani train mingi fupi fupi 1km long running at the same time. This is achieved by having many crossing stations small distances apart, alot of locomotive engines and double stack to get short trains but carry many containers. For example at any point in time 12 trains or more will be heading to Nairobi from mombasa and 33 crossing stations mean trains wait a short time for the opposite train for go through a section. 25tons per axle means a carriage can carry 100tons, 2 40 ton containers stacked.Very few containers will pass 40tonnes weight which is the limit of trucks so its useless to make the rail be able to carry bigger weights unless its for carrying mining ore.
Tz you will fill a longer train but there will be few of them. Few crossing stations mean you can't put too many trains on the same track as they cant cross each other easy. The train will have to wait to get full but ile fupi ya Kenya is already on its way to Nairobi. So Tz train is faster but imepoteza wakati ikijazwa.
Mwishowe Kenya SGR itabeba more kwavile its optimized for high frequency trains.
 
Kifaru_07 said:
Sawa, tutakuelimisha.
Kenya SGR is designed for high frequency. Yaani train mingi fupi fupi 1km long running at the same time. This is achieved by having many crossing stations small distances apart, alot of locomotive engines and double stack to get short trains but carry many containers. For example at any point in time 12 trains or more will be heading to Nairobi from mombasa and 33 crossing stations mean trains wait a short time for the opposite train for go through a section. 25tons per axle means a carriage can carry 100tons, 2 40 ton containers stacked.Very few containers will pass 40tonnes weight which is the limit of trucks so its useless to make the rail be able to carry bigger weights unless its for carrying mining ore.
Tz you will fill a longer train but there will be few of them. Few crossing stations mean you can't put too many trains on the same track as they cant cross each other easy. The train will have to wait to get full but ile fupi ya Kenya is already on its way to Nairobi. So Tz train is faster but imepoteza wakati ikijazwa.
Mwishowe Kenya SGR itabeba more kwavile its optimized for high frequency trains.
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Who told you tz train will have to wait, when we say it will pull up to 2km long it doesn't mean to wait until is 2km long.
 
Kifaru_07 said:
Sawa, tutakuelimisha.
Kenya SGR is designed for high frequency. Yaani train mingi fupi fupi 1km long running at the same time. This is achieved by having many crossing stations small distances apart, alot of locomotive engines and double stack to get short trains but carry many containers. For example at any point in time 12 trains or more will be heading to Nairobi from mombasa and 33 crossing stations mean trains wait a short time for the opposite train for go through a section. 25tons per axle means a carriage can carry 100tons, 2 40 ton containers stacked.Very few containers will pass 40tonnes weight which is the limit of trucks so its useless to make the rail be able to carry bigger weights unless its for carrying mining ore.
Tz you will fill a longer train but there will be few of them. Few crossing stations mean you can't put too many trains on the same track as they cant cross each other easy. The train will have to wait to get full but ile fupi ya Kenya is already on its way to Nairobi. So Tz train is faster but imepoteza wakati ikijazwa.
Mwishowe Kenya SGR itabeba more kwavile its optimized for high frequency trains.
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KE SGR 22M tonnes per year
TZ SGR 18M tonnes per year
Before you celebrate, half kenya's cargo is destined to industrial nairobi leaving only 12M tonnes for hinterland and Transit to uganda.
Incontrast, 95% of the TZ SGR 18M tonnes will be transit cargo to hinterland & other countries..
This is how TZ SGR will beat KE SGR as the choice for transit goods to other countries..They have more CAPACITY since they dont need to use SGR for goods destined for their commercial & industrial center -Dar esalaam
Plus, the TZ SGR will make more money since 95% of the cargo will be hauled longer while 50% of ke sgr cargo is hauled only 480 km to nairobi
 
Geza Ulole said:
haya nieleweshe ni vp SGR yenu yenye limit kwa wagon zenu zenye axle load 4 na kila moja ina uzito wa 25 tons zinaweza kubeba cargo zaidi ya SGR Tanzania yenye axle load 35 tons! Yet ur SGR ina speed limit at 80 km/h for cargo in comparison to 120 km/h for Tanzania's! Zaidi ya hapo SGR Tanzania ina provision ya kuunga treni za urefu wa 2 km ukiacha double stack! Endeleeni kudanganywa na Mchina!

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NIshawahi kukueleza ile scenario ya 4 one of your train kujazwa mizigo, treni zetu tatu zitakua zilijaa!

Wakati nyinyi mna treni ndefu za kubeba mizigo mingi kwa mpigo, sisi tuna vituo vingi zaidi vya treni kupishana (passing loops)


Big axle load means less frequency of trips, small axle load means more frequent trips... There is a reason kwanini mmepiga order ya only 16 locomotives wakati Kenya ilinunua 56 locomotives.... Nyinyi mkipiga treni moja ya 10,000 tonnes sisi tunapiga treni tatu ambazo zitakua 12,000 tonnes, at the end of the year tutakua tulibeba mizigomingi kuliko nyinyi wa axle load kubwa
 
Tony254 said:
Dar to Makutupora ni km ngapi?
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Inategemea by km unamaanisha nn kama track length (with side railway) is over 722 km but if just the distance btn the 2 places is 600 km!

Dar - Moro Project


Contract for phase one of Dar es Salaam – Morogoro 300 kilometers Standard Gauge Railways signed on 3rd of February 2017, construction works commenced on 2nd May 2, 2017. The project expected to complete on 2nd of November 2019.

Project Budget

2.7 Tanzania Trillions of Shillings are spent for Dar es Salaam – Morogoro SGR Line Project.

Bridge Construction

A 2.56 Kilometers Viaduct Bridge is constructed in Dar es Salaam City Center to Ilala Shaurimoyo to avoid traffic.

Total of 26 Large Bridges and 243 Small bridges are constructed from Dar es Salaam to Morogoro. Also, there will be 17 Overpasses and 15 Underpasses for People, animals and Vehicles

Station Works

Six (6) Stations are constructed between Dar es Salaam and Morogoro, there will be 2 Major Stations at Dar es Salaam and Morogoro and intermediate stations at Pugu, Soga, Ruvu and Ngerengere. Station designs are based on Tanzania environment, Culture and Natural resources found including Minerals.

Electrification Line

SGR trains will use electricity for moving Locomotive.

Telecommunication & Signaling

Trains operations will use European Train Control System Level 2 to ensure safety and efficacy in SGR operation activities at the Main Control Room at Dar es Salaam main Station.

Main Workshop and Marshalling Yard

Main Workshop and Marshalling Yard for Shunting Block trains is constructed at Kwala in Coast region.

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Moro-Makutupora Project


Contract for Morogoro – Makutupora 422 Kilometers Standard Gauge Railway signed on 29 Septemba 2017, the project expected to complete on February 2021 under the Contractor Yapi Merkezi.

Project Budget

4.4 Tanzania Trillions of Shillings are spent for Dar es Salaam – Morogoro SGR Line Project.

Project progress

Contractor is on Clearance and Earth works stages.

Electrification Line

SGR trains will use electricity for moving Locomotive.

Telecommunication & Signalling

Trains operations will use European Train Control System Level 2 to ensure safety and efficacy in SGR operation activities at the Main Control Room at Dar es Salaam main Station.

Mwanzo | TRC

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