Kina nani hawakupinga misaada ya kigeni kabla ili kutaka kujitegemea?

[kivava]

CHALLENGE
MM
Njoo uishi Tanzania isiyopokea misaada kwa mwaka mmoja tuu
Njoo wakati tunavumilia maumivu ya kuwacha ulevi wa kutegemea misaada
Hata teja anapewa methadone ili awache uraibu taratibu
Oh..by the way pitia Sumbawanga/Tunduma,Tanga/Horohoro,Namtumbo/Mbinga uwambie tulifanya makosa kupokea msaada wa MCC kuwajengea barabara hizo

 

[nankumene]

Hilo ndio tatizo; kwa hiyo kama Uchaguzi wa Zanzibar usingefutwa na Shein angeshinda kihalali bado watu mngeendelea kutaka misaada?

mkuu tuelewane kdg..hata mimi napenda tanzania tuache habar ya misaada ili tujenge msingi mzuri wa kujitegemea na kuondo foreign influence kwe mambo yetu..ila mi nashangaa watu wanataka kuficha sababu ya sisi kusitishiwa misaada ni nini badala yake wanadandia ooh inabidi tujitegemee misaada haina maana..kabla hatujafika huko kwanza tumezikosa hz pesa kwasababu ya mambo yaliotajwa.......tuache misaada sawa ila sio tusitishiwe misaada kwa vikashfa flan tutofautishe hapo mkuu..haijalishi rais ni nani..lets say yalitokea lets say tusitishiwe misaada kisa yalitokea mauaji ya halaiki halafu c tujisifu eti hatutaki kuwa tegemezi noo...km tumeamua kutopokea hapo sawa ila sio tusipokee kisa tumepiga blanda flani

 

[Gamba la Nyoka]

America’s MCC Decision a Reward to Magufuli

The United States has announced that it is suspending partnership with Tanzania on the Millennium Challenge Account’s new Compact development supposedly because of the election in Zanzibar and the application of the Cyber Crimes Act.

For starters, this decision was expected. Those of us in diplomatic circles have long been privy to the US Ambassador’s constant complaints and badmouthing the government about things mundane and substantive. Since Dr. John Pombe Magufuli took office, the United States has been treated like any other country. And Symbion Power, literally a State Department offshoot, has been having trouble here. And this is what this thing is all about.

The American decision is not about democracy. Why? Because Tanzania had already gone through all the rigorous criteria, including democratic governance, and qualified. The decision is not about Cyber Crimes Act. Why? Because the Act was signed into law in April 2015 and, three months later, in July 2015, the MCC notified Congress of its intention to enter into Compact agreement with Tanzania. And in September 2015, the MCC Board cited Tanzania's passage of control of corruption indicator as the only outstanding issue before approval of the Compact. Nothing about Cyber Crimes Act was mentioned. The decision moves the goalpost, making the whole MCC approval process a joke. Could it be that this has become a factor because the opposition cyber criminals, who wanted to tamper with vote tallies in the October 25 election, were busted using Cyber Crimes Act?

The American decision is also not about the election in Zanzibar. Had the America’s decision been about democracy, we would have seen it stay away from Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi in Egypt, who overthrew a democratically-elected government, who has now killed his people and thwarted all forms of freedoms, but he is still receiving a cool $1 billion of American aid. Had the America’s decision been about democracy, the United States would have at least hand-slapped Paul Kagame in Rwanda, who is always winning in sham elections, who has changed the constitution to become Rwanda’s life president, and who has admitted to going after his opponents and who has gotten the press and the entire country to sing to his tune. In January this year, the Saudis beheaded Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr, a prominent Shiite cleric, simply for stating his mind. And what does the United States plan to do about it? Award Saudi Arabia with Obama visit in April. In Cuba, where there are still political prisoners, where there are no elections, and no free press, the United States opened USAID office – to facilitate aid to Cuba, aid that is being denied to Tanzania for exact stated reasons that made the US embrace Cuba!

I probably should not go down the path of comparing Tanzania to Rwanda, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Cuba. We are a much better country – and American assistance shouldn’t be seen as affirmation of our worth for we know that that assistance is at times offered, and has been offered, to people who we wouldn’t want to be in their company. We are a small country trying to build our own democracy, in our own way. The Americans have been part of messing Zanzibar up in the Cold War plays and the historical electoral challenges should be very familiar to them. But what calls for indignation is the arrogance, the holier-than-thou attitude that is embedded in the structure of some development partnerships.

God made human in His image. America wants Tanzanian democracy in its image. Would you accept MCC money for a democracy that elevates and celebrates Donald Trump? Would you accept MCC money for a democracy with laws such as the Patriots Act? Would you accept MCC money for a democracy that tortures war captives, that spies on its people and foreign allies, that hold people without trial? Perhaps the appropriate stance, a moral position, would be for us to ask the United States to keep its money, and its mouth shut, until Guantanamo Bay prison is closed, until NSA stops spying on the Americans and foreign leaders, until torture by its jail-masters is ended, until drone killings are stopped, until its complicity (by silence and military aid to Israel) in the annexation and annihilation of Palestine is ended.

One can say that this riff is familiar, especially from people who are defending themselves – the Mugabes, Castros and so forth. But the basic point here, without going into details of explaining the Zanzibar election, is that partnership, a term used by the Americans in describing the MCC suspension, should be equally fulfilling and beneficial. And, if, as indeed MCC apparently is, the partnership is structured to correct bad behaviors, the correction should be both ways. So, how does MCC partnership correct Americans’ behavior? It does not. It is simply a doormat to rub the big feet of America, with blood stains from trampling over small people around the world, to cleanse its conscious, before it enters the house of family of nations.

The cheer that this decision has met from the unthinking section of our intelligentsia, and in opposition, is pathetic and sickening. Colonialism of the mind has been extremely powerful and everlasting such that our elites’ yearning to be positioned close to, and to think like, and to speak as, the Americans has been the greatest threat to our pride and emancipation as Tanzanians and Africans in general. Right or wrong, our country first.

What we should be proud as Tanzanians is that the basic trajectory of our democracy is a positive one. Tanzania is one of the freest countries in the world and we continue to build our young democracy. We have a vibrant (albeit foreign funded) civil society and a free press, people here can write anything, can insult political leaders, without the slightest fear of reprisal. We didn't get here because of America's pressure or demands. We didn't believe in democracy and human rights because of MCC criteria. We are proud as a nation for spilling blood and treasure to fight for freedom and democracy and human rights in Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Zambia and South Africa - at times at odds with the United States. No one can lecture us about the importance of freedom and human rights, certainly not a country that has been in the wrong side of freedom and human rights and democracy in so many places and so many times.

Regular Americans are eminently decent people, and they love this country, and Tanzanians have tremendously benefitted from their generosity. Unfortunately, in certain cases, the actions of their government and its officials give them a bad rap. As a Tanzanian, I hope that we don't lose Americans as our friends because of misguided actions of their government.

As President Magufuli works to build a new and better society, and as he has shown complete independence of mind as to treat the US Ambassador just like any other diplomat, he is bound to be punished. Perhaps he should take this as a reward. We have been in this situation before during Mwalimu Nyerere's time. He taught us what to do when our dignity as a people is equated with some cash. The path to independence is hard and painful. The Americans have reminded us that we are not there yet. We have our own flag and national anthem. Time to capture our own sovereignty.

Does this justify what happened in Zanzibar?
By the way even if you think MCC is a dead clock,but even the dead clock is right twice a day, One of the moment where MCC is right is on this sham elections in Zanzibar!

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Longolongo kibao lakini hugusi hoja za MCC kwamba.em lete nyuzi zako khs demokrasia na cyba kraim,nyuzi kabla hujawa msaliti

Usaliti ni kuwa na msimamo katika ukweli; wasaliti wa demokrasia ndio wamekuwa mashujaa wenu sasa?

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

mkuu tuelewane kdg..hata mimi napenda tanzania tuache habar ya misaada ili tujenge msingi mzuri wa kujitegemea na kuondo foreign influence kwe mambo yetu..ila mi nashangaa watu wanataka kuficha sababu ya sisi kusitishiwa misaada ni nini badala yake wanadandia ooh inabidi tujitegemee misaada haina maana..kabla hatujafika huko kwanza tumezikosa hz pesa kwasababu ya mambo yaliotajwa.......tuache misaada sawa ila sio tusitishiwe misaada kwa vikashfa flan tutofautishe hapo mkuu..haijalishi rais ni nani..lets say yalitokea lets say tusitishiwe misaada kisa yalitokea mauaji ya halaiki halafu c tujisifu eti hatutaki kuwa tegemezi noo...km tumeamua kutopokea hapo sawa ila sio tusipokee kisa tumepiga blanda flani

Lakini, nimeonesha kuwa mimi suala la misaada kupinga halijaja na hili la MCC wala Zanzibar. Binafsi yaliyotokea Zanzibar nikiamua kuyaongelewa nitazua kashfa nyingine ndio maana ninakwepa tu kw amakusudi. Binafsi sipendi misaada ya kigeni kwa sababu yoyote; na haijalishi wao wanasema kwanini wamesitishwa. Tatizo ni kuwa kwa vile wanasema ndio sababu basi na wengine wanaamini kabisa kuwa ndio sababu.

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Does this justify what happened in Zanzibar?
By the way even if you think MCC is a dead clock,but even the dead clock is right twice a day, One of the moment where MCC is right is on this sham elections in Zanzibar!

What happened in Zanzibar? Kilichotokea Zanzibar ni siasa za Zanzibar period. Irrelevant and inconsequential. Mtanitafuta ugomvi bure tu. Zanzibar walitaka kuiba uchaguzi kwa kulazimisha kushinda wakachomolewa kama walivyotaka kujaribu Bara wakawahiwa. Simple as that.

 

[magode]

Hilo ndio tatizo; kwa hiyo kama Uchaguzi wa Zanzibar usingefutwa na Shein angeshinda kihalali bado watu mngeendelea kutaka misaada?

Mzee Mwanakijiji mbona unakimbilia kujibu coment ambazo hazina mijadala tunayoitaka hapa!!?? Hebu rudi ujibu hoja ya Gamba la Nyoka post number #6. Halafu hatuna tatizo na mabandiko yako kuhusu suala la misaada,lkn unaweza kurejea pia mabandiko yako yaliyohusu cyber crime!!?

 

[Sinoni]

Mimi nimekuwa nikipinga misaada kwa muda mrefu sana sasa.

Kuna wakati huwa nafikia sehemu nadhani labda niko peke yangu tu kwenye kupinga hilo.

Ni kweli misaada hatuitaki, na demokrasia na uhuru wa kutoa habari hatuutaki pia?

 

[nankumene]

Lakini, nimeonesha kuwa mimi suala la misaada kupinga halijaja na hili la MCC wala Zanzibar. Binafsi yaliyotokea Zanzibar nikiamua kuyaongelewa nitazua kashfa nyingine ndio maana ninakwepa tu kw amakusudi. Binafsi sipendi misaada ya kigeni kwa sababu yoyote; na haijalishi wao wanasema kwanini wamesitishwa. Tatizo ni kuwa kwa vile wanasema ndio sababu basi na wengine wanaamini kabisa kuwa ndio sababu.

hapo ni sawa mkuu......unajua watu wanadiscuss umuhimu wa kutotegemea misaad ya manchi mengine af kuna watu kama umewaona wanataka kutumia discussion hio kufunika issue ya zenji hao ndo wananiboa mkuu..pamoja sana

 

[cblhbn]

Watu wanatakiwa kufahamu every decision in life has consequences, ts the way you handle them is what determines that are positive or negative, na hata tungeendelea na misaada bado changamoto zungekuepo na bado tunazuona so lets try the other side, hongera sana mzee mwanakijiji kwa kuainisha haya mambo nani lazima watu tuelewe tusikariri kukariri

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Mzee Mwanakijiji mbona unakimbilia kujibu coment ambazo hazina mijadala tunayoitaka hapa!!?? Hebu rudi ujibu hoja ya Gamba la Nyoka post number #6. Halafu hatuna tatizo na mabandiko yako kuhusu suala la misaada,lkn unaweza kurejea pia mabandiko yako yaliyohusu cyber crime!!?

Magode, tatizo langu la cybercrime ni kuwa nilikuwa wa kwanza kuwaonya wapinzani na wapenda demokrasia juu ya ujio wa sheria hii tangu baada ya uchaguzi wa 2010. Wakati wengine walikuwa wanaishi katika kufurahia kupendwa na kukubalika wengine tulishajua kuwa CCM walikuwa wanaenda kufanya nini wakati ule ili wasiende kwenye uchaguzi mkuu wa 2015 katika mazingira yale yale. Ndio maana wakati wengine wanashtuka baada ya kuja kwa Cybercrime Bill wengine tulishaachana nayo kwani itakuwa ni kudandia tu wakati tulishapiga kelele juu ya hilo. Ukitafuta kunisoma unaweza. ila kwa vile unaweza kufikiria labda sijawahi kuzungumzia rejea hapa:

Niliandika:
Here we go.... Tanzania new internet policy...Activists and online journalists beware

Niliandika hilo Nov 24, 2012. Na ukitaka kujua nilichokisoma angalia "my take" niliyoandika humo. Siyo watu waliokuja kushtuka miaka mitatu baadaye! Sidhani kama utarudi na kukiri nilikuwa sahihi na mbele ya wengine ambao leo wanatutuhumu wengine ati hatujazungumzia mambo haya. Wanasema sisi ndio tumebadilika!

 

[Youngblood]

Mimi nimekuwa nikipinga misaada kwa muda mrefu sana sasa.

Kuna wakati huwa nafikia sehemu nadhani labda niko peke yangu tu kwenye kupinga hilo.

Tuko pamoja mkuu

 

[Tindo]

Lakini, nimeonesha kuwa mimi suala la misaada kupinga halijaja na hili la MCC wala Zanzibar. Binafsi yaliyotokea Zanzibar nikiamua kuyaongelewa nitazua kashfa nyingine ndio maana ninakwepa tu kw amakusudi. Binafsi sipendi misaada ya kigeni kwa sababu yoyote; na haijalishi wao wanasema kwanini wamesitishwa. Tatizo ni kuwa kwa vile wanasema ndio sababu basi na wengine wanaamini kabisa kuwa ndio sababu.

Mkuu mwanakijiji nakubaliana sana na wewe, nadhani kwenye post yangu asubuhi niliomba uje hapa nyumbani utupe ujuzi uliochuma huko nje, hizi nadharia kwetu imegeuka kuwa tatizo. Wenzetu wachina walienda kwenye nchi za watu wenye techology ya juu wakajifunza wakarudi kwao kufanyia kazi waliyojifunza, wewe kimekushinda nini? Nilitoa na mfano wa wahadhiri wa vyuo vyetu wanaosema watu wafikiri ili kujikwamua kimaisha lakini wenyewe ukiwatoa kwenye ajira wanageuka kuwa maskini. Kama ni kweli wewe unapinga sisi kupewa misaada kwanini usije nchini utusaidie na mawazo yako nini kifanyike ili tutoke hapa tulipo? Juzi kuna kituko kimetokea mkuu wa mkoa fulani baaada ya mabadiliko akakosa cheo huku ana Phd lakini jinsi alivyoomba kila mtu ameshangaa. Lakini ungefanikiwa kumsikia akiwa madarakani ni kulaani watu wasiopenda kazi wala kujituma. Wewe kinakushinda nini kurudi nyumbani wakati unaona sisi tunataka kushikishwa ukuta na wazungu? Njoo kwenye uhondo wa ngoma sio kuwa mshauri mzuri kinadharia wakati uwanja uko wazi. Njoo nyumbani tuone huo umahiri wako wa kuona makosa ya wengine uwanjani na jinsi ya kuyarekebisha ukiwa jukwaani.

 

[Wakudadavuwa]

Kwa hoja hizi nzito...lazima watumie multiple IDs kutukana na kuondoa hasira zao,hoja kimsingi iko wazi.Kuna watu wanaongelea suala la Zanzibar kipropaganda....ili kuhalalisha uovu waliopanga na serikali za magharibi..lilikuwa ni jaribio kubwa kwa usalama wa Tanzania....lazima tuseme ukweli pia hata hizo ahadi za wahisani hazijawahi kutimizwa asilimia 100 na wanapokumbwa na ukata hutowa sababu kama hizi kuficha aibu yao hata kama umetimiza vigezo.

 

[Wakudadavuwa]

Lakini, nimeonesha kuwa mimi suala la misaada kupinga halijaja na hili la MCC wala Zanzibar. Binafsi yaliyotokea Zanzibar nikiamua kuyaongelewa nitazua kashfa nyingine ndio maana ninakwepa tu kw amakusudi. Binafsi sipendi misaada ya kigeni kwa sababu yoyote; na haijalishi wao wanasema kwanini wamesitishwa. Tatizo ni kuwa kwa vile wanasema ndio sababu basi na wengine wanaamini kabisa kuwa ndio sababu.

Hamna ushahidi duniani uliothibitisha misaada na kuomba hukuza uchumi,je wao hupata nini kwa kutowa?...Kuna kitabu kinaitwa Dead Aid by Dambisa Moyo (Mzambia),pia kwenye youtube kuna debate akiwa na wasomi wa kizungu akitowa hoja zake kuthibitisha madhara ya misaada ya kudumu kwa Afrika,waweza kufuatilia.

 

[Tindo]

Kwa hoja hizi nzito...lazima watumie multiple IDs kutukana na kuondoa hasira zao,hoja kimsingi iko wazi.Kuna watu wanaongelea suala la Zanzibar kipropaganda....ili kuhalalisha uovu waliopanga na serikali za magharibi..lilikuwa ni jaribio kubwa kwa usalama wa Tanzania....lazima tuseme ukweli pia hata hizo ahadi za wahisani hazijawahi kutimizwa asilimia 100 na wanapokumbwa na ukata hutowa sababu kama hizi kuficha aibu yao hata kama umetimiza vigezo.

Kweli unachosema? halafu hizo asilimia chache zilipofika hapa nchini zilitumika vizuri kwa asilimia 100? Acheni utani basi jamani. Wenye shida ya hizo hela ni sisi na wala sio hao waliotunyima, utasikia propaganda za kichovu eti wapemba watawarudisha waarabu, lakini wakati huohuo raslimali karibu zote zinasimamiwa na kuvunwa na wageni sisi tunaishia kupewa mirahaba ya chini mno. Ukiangalia hao waarabu wako wangapi na huo ukubwa wa pemba ni kiasi gani mpaka leo tuogope waarabu unabaki kinywa wazi. Hao akina mwanakijiji wamebaki na minadharia tu huko nje lakini hawako tayari kuja hapa nyumbani kuonyesha ni jinsi gani tuone anaweza kulisaidia taifa.

 

[Wakudadavuwa]

Kweli unachosema? halafu hizo asilimia chache zilipofika hapa nchini zilitumika vizuri kwa asilimia 100? Acheni utani basi jamani. Wenye shida ya hizo hela ni sisi na wala sio hao waliotunyima, utasikia propaganda za kichovu eti wapemba watawarudisha waarabu, lakini wakati huohuo raslimali karibu zote zinasimamiwa na kuvunwa na wageni sisi tunaishia kupewa mirahaba ya chini mno. Ukiangalia hao waarabu wako wangapi na huo ukubwa wa pemba ni kiasi gani mpaka leo tuogope waarabu unabaki kinywa wazi. Hao akina mwanakijiji wamebaki na minadharia tu huko nje lakini hawako tayari kuja hapa nyumbani kuonyesha ni jinsi gani tuone anaweza kulisaidia taifa.

Waarabu na wapemba umeongea wewe,jikite kwenye mada ili tupate suluhisho.

 

[The Palm Tree]

WanaCCM tumeshaeleza wazi kuwa hatuna shida na vijimisaada vyenye masharti. Hili hata mstaafu Kikwete alilizungumza na sasa rais Dkt Magufuli anazidi kulikazia.

Hebu sema kweli mmesema lini na wapi? Je, unafikiri hilo linafanyika kwa sababu za kusema tu?

Tatizo nyie wana CCM na huyu Mzee Mwanakijiji mnadhani sisi wengine tunaowashangaa mnadhani tunaikataa dhana ya kujitegemea na pengine hatupendi kujitegemea.

La hasha ndugu!!

Hivi mtu anawezaje kutokuwa tegemezi iwapo anashindwa hata kujisimamia kwa kufuata taratibu alizojiwekea yeye mwenyewe mpaka uamushwe toka uzingizini na mtu mwingine, kwamba, wewe vipi....umelala umepitiliza .....amka!!??

Halafu tunachotofautiana na kupingana nanyi, actually, si nia ya kupenda na kutaka kwetu kujitegemea isipokuwa tunapinga kivuli mlichotuzibia mbele nyie wana CCM hata tusione njia ya kuelekea kwenye kujitegemea na wakati huohuo mnatuhimiza na kutuimbia nyimbo tamutamu za "...oh tunatembea na si muda mrefu tunafika ktk mji ule mtakatifu wa kujitegemea!!"

Yaani ni unafiki kwa kwenda mbele!!

 

[Tindo]

Waarabu na wapemba umeongea wewe,jikite kwenye mada ili tupate suluhisho.

Suluhisho ni rahisi sana, ni kutimiza demokrasia kama inavyopaswa na iwapo utashindwa ni lazima ukubali. Na iwapo tuna lengo kabisa la kutoka hapa tulipo ni lazima tukope ili kukuza kilimo na kujenga viwanda vya kutosha. Kinyume na hapo tutashinda hapa kila siku kulaumiana na wale wengine kupambana kuhakikisha wanasifiwa bila kuleta maendeleo zaidi ya kubaki madarakani.

 

[Tindo]

Hebu sema kweli mmesema lini na wapi? Je, unafikiri hilo linafanyika kwa sababu za kusema tu?

Tatizo nyie wana CCM na huyu Mzee Mwanakijiji mnadhani sisi wengine tunaowashangaa mnadhani tunaikataa dhana ya kujitegemea na pengine hatupendi kujitegemea.

La hasha ndugu!!

Hivi mtu anawezaje kutokuwa tegemezi iwapo anashindwa hata kujisimamia kwa kufuata taratibu alizojiwekea yeye mwenyewe mpaka uamushwe toka uzingizini na mtu mwingine, kwamba, wewe vipi....umelala umepitiliza .....amka!!??

Halafu tunachotofautiana na kupingana nanyi, actually, si nia ya kupenda na kutaka kwetu kujitegemea isipokuwa tunapinga kivuli mlichotuzibia mbele nyie wana CCM hata tusione njia ya kuelekea kwenye kujitegemea na wakati huohuo mnatuhimiza na kutuimbia nyimbo tamutamu za "...oh tunatembea na si muda mrefu tunafika ktk mji ule mtakatifu wa kujitegemea!!"

Yaani ni unafiki kwa kwenda mbele!!

Utashangaa wanaohubiri kujitegemea wanaoana sifa kutumia bidhaa za nchi za nje hata zile zinazopatikana hapa nchini. Kituko kikubwa wote wanaohubiri kujitegemea ni wale wenye ajira au nafasi kwenye serekali, sasa watoe kwenye hayo madaraka au ajira uone wanavyochanganyikiwa. Watu tunapenda sana kujitegemea kwani mpaka sasa hatuna nafasi zozote katika serekali bali ni wajasiriamali tunaopambana kwa kila hali. Ila tulichogundua serekali haina taarifa na wakulima ambao ndio wengi kwani viongozi wengi maendeleo na kujitegemea, wanayaongelea kinadharia zaidi kuliko uhalisia.