Kabla ya Dunia kutengenezwa kulikuwepo na nini??

Prove to me that the universe was created/designed. Wat u see ist the result of evolution and natural selection(am not sure if you understand),
How can god(if exist) create such universe/earth in a first place ?then said to be all perfect, all knowing, all powerful?

How comes all perfect, all knowing, all powerful fail to stop the so called Satan(if exist) from destroying the universe, his beloved creatures(human).
Actually you make senses but first you have to understand in search of the truth about God and universe people are comes with different theories. So if we want to discuss this topic we both need to stand on our theories.
 
There is no god my friend, live and enjoy your life to the maximum. Those are man made stories which has not been verified. You are yourself god, once you fail to do something or to understand it, it doesn't mean that the imaginary god is the answer. Grow up my dear, we (human being) are the one who created god in our minds.
The universe is the way it is either we like or not, the presence of the intelligent designer depends on our minds,. God is the complex entity to be understood by human, as the universe which according to the modern scientists has got a simple beginning and explainable .

.. welcome to the world of free thinkers..
...... free ideas....

Umeanza na.... There is no God....... Alafu paragraph ya pili katikati huko ukasema..... GOD is the............ Kwel nimeamin Mungu yupo na anafanya kazi hata kwa wasioamini kama yupo. Asante Mungu mtenda miujiza... Had uliyemtendea hajashtuka.
 
If you accept that god came from nothing y don't you accept that the universe came from nothing?,. Everything we know about this universe suggest that there is no/no need of the intelligent designer.
DINI ni ulaghai wa kizamani unaopitwa na wakati., MUNGU ni idea ya mwanadamu katika harakati za kutafuta chanzo cha uwepo wake katika uso wa DUNIA.
WE CAN DISMISS GOD AND RELIGION AS A WISHFUL THINKING.
...... free ideas.....

If God comes from nothing it means that all other things emerge from him,,he is Everlasting with no beginning or an End..The world is like house which can either created or destroyed.MUNGU ni nafsi inayoishi..Hana mwanzo wala mwisho..Kitu kuwa na mwanzo au muda ni "state of mind" ya binadamu..SCIENCE is the only wishful thinking because is man innovations.
 
Dunia Ilikuwepo Ila Ilikuwa Imefunikwa Na Maji Fuatilia Kitabu Cha Mwanzo Mungu Aliamlisha Maji Yagawanyike Ili Pakavu Paonekane Hiyo Ina Maana Dunia Ilikuwa Imefunikwa Na Maji
 
Tunaposema kulikuwa na maji maana yake dunia yote ilijaa maji. Mungu alifanya kutenganisha pakaonekana mbingu na nchi kisha akatenganisha tena pakatokea nchi kavu na bahari. Upo hapo.
 
Nafikiri wewe free ideas huko sawa nadhani endelea kumi mungu akufunulie ujue Mungu.pili naamini Mungu aneshakusamehe kwasababu Mungu ndiye aliyekupa pumzi ndio maana unaishi, tatu do not include science and the ALMIGHT GOD huo kwako ni upofu mkuu sana
 
The Bible says,the stupid has claimed God does not exist! You're a stupid so there's no wonder on your comments as ever since God knew that such idiots as you are would merely exist.

Jamaa haamini katika uwepo wa Mungu na kwa hiyo haamini chochote kutoka kwenye hivyo vitabu vinavyomuelezea huyo Mungu. Sasa unapojenga hoja kwa kutumia vitabu ambavyo jamaa haviamini kiukweli hata mimi nakuona huna akili sawa sawa.
 
Free Ideas as you call yourself!

Do you thing you created yourself?
And the food you are eating?
And the brain that u are using to now free think?
The water your are using and abusing?
The organized universe and the things we see did not create themselves.
Even simple things like your beautiful car were created by someone!

Ni wakati sasa umefika kwa theist wote kukubali kwamba mmeshindwa kumuelezea Mungu na kilichobaki ni kufuata tu mkumbo
 
Kwamba hufahamu uwepo wa Mungu? Prove that Mungu doesn't exist.

That which doesn't exist cannot be proved to not exists.

Proof is the realm of that which exist.

You must familiarize with the logic of proof.

Prove that god exists.
 
That which doesn't exist cannot be proved to not exists.

Proof is the realm of that which exist.

You must familiarize with the logic of proof.

Prove that god exists.

Basi huwezi kuja na conclusion kwamba hakuna Mungu ilihali hujawahi kufanya utafiti wa uwepo wake. Hii inaonyesha wanaosema hakuna Mungu hawajawahi kujishughulisha kabisa na uwepo wake.

Hivyo naweza kuamini imani yao kwamba hakuna Mungu kwa maana hawajawahi kujihusisha nae kwa lolote..!
 
Basi huwezi kuja na conclusion kwamba hakuna Mungu ilihali hujawahi kufanya utafiti wa uwepo wake. Hii inaonyesha wanaosema hakuna Mungu hawajawahi kujishughulisha kabisa na uwepo wake.

Hivyo naweza kuamini imani yao kwamba hakuna Mungu kwa maana hawajawahi kujihusisha nae kwa lolote..!

Hakuna mungu kwa sababu idea ya mungu inajipinga yenyewe, in a contradiction that cannot happen if god exists.
 
Hakuna mungu kwa sababu idea ya mungu inajipinga mwenyewe, in a contradiction that cannot happen if god exists.

Hii ni dhana nyepesi sana kufikia suluhisho la "HAKUNA MUNGU" nahitaji dhana madhubuti yenye kupishana na ile ya vitabu vitukufu (Bible na holy Qur'an.)

Otherwise, wanaosema hakuna uwepo wa Mungu wamejikita zaidi kwenye sayansi ya dunia bila kupitia vitabu vya dini.

Kama itatokea ukapitia vitabu vya dini, na ukawafuatilia wanasayansi utagundua uwepo wa Mungu upo 100% pasi na shaka.

Sayansi inapwaya juu ya uwepo wa Mungu.. Haijakamilika..

Mungu Yupo.
 
Who wrote the bible?, aren't they stupid like me?, The Bible was written the people who used to bury the first born (as sacrifice to god) on poles of the buildings so that the god could not destroy them. These are the kind of people who wrote the bible that you believe in as te the Holy book.

Believe me if there could be god he could reveal himself to us amd not hiding for a long time.
.... free ideas....

Are you sure that God is hiding Himself from yow? While He is everywhere? And why do you have to realise and see Him while you are not ready to know Who He is?
 
Hii ni dhana nyepesi sana kufikia suluhisho la "HAKUNA MUNGU" nahitaji dhana madhubuti yenye kupishana na ile ya vitabu vitukufu (Bible na holy Qur'an.)

Otherwise, wanaosema hakuna uwepo wa Mungu wamejikita zaidi kwenye sayansi ya dunia bila kupitia vitabu vya dini.

Kama itatokea ukapitia vitabu vya dini, na ukawafuatilia wanasayansi utagundua uwepo wa Mungu upo 100% pasi na shaka.

Sayansi inapwaya juu ya uwepo wa Mungu.. Haijakamilika..

Mungu Yupo.

y do we need religious books to know god our creator?, Kwa nini mpaka nikae kanisani msikitini ndipo nijifunze/nifunzwe kuhusu mungu wangu tena muumba?.
kama aliweza kutufanya tuvute pumzi automatically, ilikuwaje alishindwa kutufanya tumjue bila kufundishwa kuhusu yeye?.
..... free ideas....
 
there is no god my friend, live and enjoy your life to the maximum. Those are man made stories which has not been verified. You are yourself god, once you fail to do something or to understand it, it doesn't mean that the imaginary god is the answer. Grow up my dear, we (human being) are the one who created god in our minds.
The universe is the way it is either we like or not, the presence of the intelligent designer depends on our minds,. God is the complex entity to be understood by human, as the universe which according to the modern scientists has got a simple beginning and explainable .

.. Welcome to the world of free thinkers..
...... Free ideas....

mungu alikuwepo yupo na ataendelea kuwepo,tatizo watu wanaojiita gthinker na scientists mnapenda kutumia mwili tuu..tumieni na nafsi haya mambo utayaelewa vyema. Ni kama mtoto aliyeko tumboni mwa mama yake kumuelewesha kuwa kuna mama yake na yeye yupo ndani yake utakesha kumuelewesha. Watu wanaoamini katika roho ziwe za kishetani au za kimungu ukileta hoja zako wanakushangaa sana mkuu. Ukitaka uamini uwepo wa mungu na nguvu zake usitumie mwili maana hautaelewa na wapo wasioweza kupinga uwepo wa mungu kwa woga tuu wa jamii lakini kiukweli hawana mizizi imara ya ujuzi wameaminishwa kama desituri kizazi hata kizazi ndo maana utakuta mtu ni dini flani kisa baba,babu alikuwa hivyo.ili uamini katika mungu yakubidi utumie nafsi na hapa ndo utakuta mambo mengi usioyajua na kushangaa pengine unaweza kuonekana km mtu aliyechanganyikiwa kama usipotumia akili ya ziada kuwaelewesha watu wa karibu ns wewe!
 
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